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 THE POP EXPOSE 'G.I.Joe O-ring or Modern' By Mitchell Smith!
Do you like 25th style G.I. Joe's better than the O-ring style?

In 2007 G.I. Joe replaced the classic O-ring style Joe with a modern 25th Anniversary Style Joe. Although I love many of the updates such as the awesome articulation and attention to detail, I will always be a fan of my first love, the O-ring style Joes. I received my first G.I. Joes when I was 7 years old. It was a magical Christmas one that highlights many of the other Christmases I have enjoyed over the years. The Original Straight Arm figures and vehicles have always been one of my favorite years for Joes Between my brothers and I we got nearly one of everything from the 1982 line up, minus Snake Eyes and Scarlett.


To this day the Original Straight Arm Snake Eyes is the only one I’m missing from the 1982 line up. Anyhow, back then we didn’t really care or know much about any of the other figures. They were just really cool with the file cards, the awesome card art, and the overall awesomeness of the figures and vehicles themselves. I think most of you know how the story goes for my O-ring days as a kid. There were many great years for me that eventually fizzled out when I went into high school, but I never lost interest and never stopped enjoying Joes. In the early 2000 I found some 2 packs on clearance for $5.00 each and they were pretty cool. I was able to dig up all my old Joes from my parents house and so my collecting began.


Not long after this I started my own family and the Joes had to take a back seat. I remember in the mid 2000s looking at all the cool comic packs, and then going to the baby section and buying diapers and baby formula. I wouldn’t change having kids for anything though, and making that sacrifice makes me appreciate the art of collecting and all I have inside and outside of G.I. Joe. I did pick up a couple figures in 2005-2006 like Wild Bill and Grand Slam, plus a couple vehicles like the 2005 Desert Humvee and the TRU exclusive G.I. Joe Moray Hydrofoil. Then as we all know 2007 was when the new style 25th anniversary figures came out. Over the next several years Hasbro put out tons of the classic characters from 1982-1990’s figures. I thought they did a great job putting out as many of the classic characters as they did, I did a lot of Joe hunting to find the awesome upgraded figures in those years. The last 3 Joes I bought were from retail on a mad hunt I found Life Line, Sci-Fi, and Airtight.


It wasn’t long after that Hasbro went to an all online sale and I couldn’t justify spending $40.00 + on 1 figure so I put my collecting to rest. A little rest from hunting down Joes gave me some time to reflect on what I had and how many great figures and vehicles Hasbro had released. It was quite extraordinary everything that they had put out and how awesome they were. I still had that hunger to collect more though. I was looking at all the figures on line that I wish I could have, but they were too far out of my price range. So I pulled out the old O-ring style Joes. I started taking a closer look at some of my favorite characters. I started paying a little better attention to some of the detail. I had kind of forgotten why I fell in love with G.I Joe to begin with.

There was so much heart and soul poured into the original Joes. The 1982 figures which were somewhat generic but brilliantly made. Switching uniforms, hair color, and weapon or backpack, but the attention to detail was still quite amazing just a pocket on the sleeve or different web gear and there was a completely different character. I love what the creators did with a pilot figure line that nobody had any idea it would grow to such popularity. Going back to the O-ring version seemed natural, they were what I grew up with. All around these figures and vehicles were a part of my childhood, a part of your childhood as well. Then I fell back in love with the O-ring figures. I have a certain love for both the O-ring and the modern style G.I. Joes. They both have great qualities. In some cases I think the original figures are better than the upgrade they may have received. For me though it is a toss up. I love both styles, it's impossible for me to choose one or the other. In some cases I even mash the 2 styles together in some dioramas.

I’ll leave you with a few of my favorite figures. 1982 Hawk, 1985 Frostbite, 1989 Payload, 1994 Space Shot, 2004 Kwinn, 2008 Rock n Roll, 2011 Steel Brigade, and last but not least 2017 Hardtop. Also a few vehicles the 1984 Manta, 1990 Avalanche and the 2010 Wolf Hound. I do love all the figures and vehicles to some degree, they still give me goosebumps some days. So do you have a favorite style, vehicle or figure? Sound off below and let us know!

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Post Re: THE POP EXPOSE 'G.I.Joe O-ring or Modern' By Mitchell Sm
I was a huge collector of modern, but im selling off all of my modern vehicles now, and i already got rid of most of my modern era figures. There are some from ME that are just outstanding though. Pythona and Nemesis Enforcer are home runs. Big Boa is another one that is better than the original.

As far as vintage goes, i have so many favorites, Shipwreck, Grid-Iron, Crimson Guard, Firefly, 1991 General Hawk. The 1990 General vehicle is my all time favorite, although i am also really fond of the Night Raven, Mud Fighter, Hiss II, Fang II, and the Moray.

Currently pairing down my collection is kind of hard, but it will be more fun to have one the size that i can display and enjoy instead of a monstrous amount of stuff that i have to keep stored away.

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Post Re: THE POP EXPOSE 'G.I.Joe O-ring or Modern' By Mitchell Sm
Like you, I enjoyed getting new figures when Wal-Mart rolled out the 25th Foil cards for $4.88. Snagging a Snake-Eyes and Storm-Shadow for under $10 total was fantastic. I started having sparring matches with those 2, and it grew from there. The POC seemed to have been the best of the modern bunch to me, but I really liked the few Resolute figures I was able to snag.

I have thought about getting rid of the modern figures, as my love for O-rings has been reignited by 3rd party releases. But for loose figures, I would get less than or just about as much as I paid originally for some of them. And they do pose really well!

I think the B.A.T.S. are one of the best modern releases and fit great with O-ringers. The variance in construction actually makes them look more mechanical and diabolical. And I love the articulated claw clamping down on poor Joes, while their team-mates race in to try to rescue them.

Good stuff all around. I hope with the new movie, we can get new figures as well. I'm not sure what I will do though when they are released. Despite my O-ring love, I don't want the brand shelved forever. I can't begin a new 6" collection though.

If they are all 6" I might have to get an obligatory figure or 2 to support the brand. If they have 3-3/4" stuff, boy howdy, be still my wallet!

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Post Re: THE POP EXPOSE 'G.I.Joe O-ring or Modern' By Mitchell Sm
I've collected Joe's since 85, i got my first O rings back then. it was a Tele viper and BBQ if I remember correctly. I was big on the modern area when in stores and jumped into making Joe's more. It was awesome to have Joe's back! But something was wrong with these modern Joe's, no classic foot pegs or backpacks fit the Joe's any more and some of them would not sit even in vehicles like they should. Then they jacked the price up. Sure I still got the ones I wanted, but I wanted new Joe's to be able to fit in better with the classic o ring guys. I'm not getting 6 in Joe's if I want that style I'll collect sigma six! What we need is a mash up of O ring and modern in 3 3/4 style. I'll break it down

Body torso head all classic o Ring style normal classic pegs back + foot
Arms and legs modern style 3 screw holes like normal,no more cracking torso glue just to switch parts, no rivets in arms. modern arms hands and feet, no 4 in figs unless it's established he's tall 4 in would be max, girl figs could be a bit shorter, all figs would fit proper in vehicles classic or new. Card art always and file Card too are must. Flag points for a nod to the mail in days but no actual mail ins. Vehicles should come packed with wave list and coming soon products like old days.

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I've collected Joe's since 85, i got my first O rings back then. it was a Tele viper and BBQ if I remember correctly. I was big on the modern area when in stores and jumped into making Joe's more. It was awesome to have Joe's back! But something was wrong with these modern Joe's, no classic foot pegs or backpacks fit the Joe's any more and some of them would not sit even in vehicles like they should. Then they jacked the price up. Sure I still got the ones I wanted, but I wanted new Joe's to be able to fit in better with the classic o ring guys. I'm not getting 6 in Joe's if I want that style I'll collect sigma six! What we need is a mash up of O ring and modern in 3 3/4 style. I'll break it down

Body torso head all classic o Ring style normal classic pegs back + foot
Arms and legs modern style 3 screw holes like normal,no more cracking torso glue just to switch parts, no rivets in arms. modern arms hands and feet, no 4 in figs unless it's established he's tall 4 in would be max, girl figs could be a bit shorter, all figs would fit proper in vehicles classic or new. Card art always and file Card too are must. Flag points for a nod to the mail in days but no actual mail ins. Vehicles should come packed with wave list and coming soon products like old days.


It will be interesting to see what products they show off at toyfair in a month or two. I really hope they don't rehash a ton of existing ninja molds and make that the snake eyes toy line. You have to hope with the line being 'rested' for 3 years they have had time to come up with something new and innovative.

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Post Re: THE POP EXPOSE 'G.I.Joe O-ring or Modern' By Mitchell Sm
I think it will come down to costs and margins.

6" Figure Option
If they can produce a 6" figure for $8 and sell it wholesale for $12, and the retailers can sell it for $20, you can see Hasbro makes $4 per unit and retailers make $8, until they put them on sale.

3-3/4" Figure Option
If they can produce a 3-3/4" figure for $6 and sell it wholesale for $8, and the retailers sell it for $10-$12, you can see Hasbro makes $2 per unit and the retailers make $2-$4, until they put them on sale.

So the margins would look better on the 6" option, unless their sales data shows 3-3/4" moves more units at retail at the $10~ price point.
And 3-3/4" brings the potential for vehicles. So there is that...

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yorktownjoe wrote:
I think it will come down to costs and margins.

6" Figure Option
If they can produce a 6" figure for $8 and sell it wholesale for $12, and the retailers can sell it for $20, you can see Hasbro makes $4 per unit and retailers make $8, until they put them on sale.

3-3/4" Figure Option
If they can produce a 3-3/4" figure for $6 and sell it wholesale for $8, and the retailers sell it for $10-$12, you can see Hasbro makes $2 per unit and the retailers make $2-$4, until they put them on sale.

So the margins would look better on the 6" option, unless their sales data shows 3-3/4" moves more units at retail at the $10~ price point.
And 3-3/4" brings the potential for vehicles. So there is that...


I think your pretty spot on with your assessment. I don't see Star Wars figures moving well so far at $12 for 3.5 inch, i could see them going marvel legends scale for profit purposes alone.

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⚡ Kal-El ⚡ wrote:
yorktownjoe wrote:
I think it will come down to costs and margins.

6" Figure Option
If they can produce a 6" figure for $8 and sell it wholesale for $12, and the retailers can sell it for $20, you can see Hasbro makes $4 per unit and retailers make $8, until they put them on sale.

3-3/4" Figure Option
If they can produce a 3-3/4" figure for $6 and sell it wholesale for $8, and the retailers sell it for $10-$12, you can see Hasbro makes $2 per unit and the retailers make $2-$4, until they put them on sale.

So the margins would look better on the 6" option, unless their sales data shows 3-3/4" moves more units at retail at the $10~ price point.
And 3-3/4" brings the potential for vehicles. So there is that...


I think your pretty spot on with your assessment. I don't see Star Wars figures moving well so far at $12 for 3.5 inch, i could see them going marvel legends scale for profit purposes alone.


Don't them crapy fortnight fake Joe's sell crazy these days? Why not just do 2 lines like SW does? Then both there base margin is covered it's not rocket science hasbro! I agree less ninjas is more this time.

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I agree, make both.

If they did both lines, I would probably end up buying some 3-3/4". I would be tempted to buy one or two 6" figures, but I would probably defer until post movie clearance time.

I can simply enjoy looking at other's photos of 6" figures. But I might get suckered in when/if I see a solid figure at retail.

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yorktownjoe wrote:
I agree, make both.

If they did both lines, I would probably end up buying some 3-3/4". I would be tempted to buy one or two 6" figures, but I would probably defer until post movie clearance time.

I can simply enjoy looking at other's photos of 6" figures. But I might get suckered in when/if I see a solid figure at retail.


I fear it honestly. I told myself back several years ago i absolutely would not buy any Sigma Six figures, then i ended up with a pile of them, because once i got one i was hooked. Dang plastic crack.

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